Remarks by the President at "ask President Bush" Event
Nashua High School North
Nashua, New Hampshire
Release Date: 8/30/2004
1:17 P.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: Thanks for coming. Thank you all. Go ahead and
be seated. Thanks for coming. Go ahead and take a seat. I've got
some work to do. So I see your senior Senator -- that would be
Judd Gregg -- he says, when you get up to New Hampshire, come up
there and tell them what's on your mind and answer some of their
questions. So I'm here to tell you what's on my mind, and I'm
here to answer some of your questions. I'll tell you what's on
my mind, first and foremost. With your help, we will carry New
Hampshire again and we're going to win a great victory in
November. (Applause.)
Thank you. So I'm here asking for the vote, see. That's what
you've got to do. I think you've got to get out amongst the
people and say, I want your vote. And I'm going to talk about
how to make this a saver world and a more hopeful America. I'm
asking for your vote because there's more work to be done to
make America a safer place, and America a more hopeful country
for every citizen who lives here. I'm also here to ask for your
help. See, I don't think you can win elections alone. I think it
requires citizens who are willing to register people to vote, to
put up the signs, to turn out the vote. And that's what I'm here
to ask you to do. I'd like your help as we're coming down the
stretch. There's no doubt in my mind that with your help, we're
going to win. (Applause.)
I'm going to give you some reasons why I think you ought to
put me back in. Perhaps the most important one of all is so that
Laura is the First Lady for four more years. (Applause.) All
right. I love her dearly. She is a great mom, she is a really
good First Lady. She's been a calm in the midst of storm, she
has got a clear vision about a better America. I'll never forget
the day she took on the presidential radio address -- for that
morning, it became the First Lady's radio address -- and she
spoke to the women of Afghanistan. And because of her gentle and
her strong words of support, she lifted the spirits of thousands
of women in a country that had brutalized by tyranny. And Laura
has got that ability to do so, and I -- thanks for coming -- she
is a -- (applause.) I can't wait for the country -- I can't wait
for the country to hear her speech. She's giving a speech
tomorrow night.
Tonight, by the way, at our convention, we've got America's
Mayor Rudy Giuliani speaking. (Applause.) And a true American
hero, John McCain, is speaking tonight, too. (Applause.) They're
kicking off the convention with positive speeches. This is going
to be a positive experience for the people of this country to
see what we believe. (Applause.)
I talked to the Vice President this morning. He's -- he's
getting ready to crank it up. I admit it, he's not the prettiest
face on the ticket. (Laughter.) I didn't pick him for his looks.
I picked him because of his experience, his judgment, and
because he can get the job done. (Applause.)
I want to thank your Governor. I appreciate your Governor,
Craig Benson. See, he's -- he's like the Governor of
Massachusetts. These are people that did not have to run.
They're not full-time politicians. They were successful
entrepreneurs. Craig decided to leave a comfortable life and
serve. I think it's a great and noble example. I hope you put
him back into office as the Governor. (Applause.) And like me,
he married well. The First Lady, Denise, is doing a great job in
this state, as well. Thank you, Denise. (Applause.)
I appreciate old Governor Romney sliding across the border.
(Applause.) I'm proud of his leadership. Here is an example of
strong, steady leadership. He stands for what he believes.
(Applause.) And I want to thank -- and I want to thank his sweet
wife, Ann, for joining us. Ann, thank you for being here. The
mom of four -- the mom of five -- now, that's one first family,
isn't it? (Applause.)
I've already mentioned old -- I've already mentioned old
Judd. He's a great United States Senator. I'm telling you. He is
steady, he's strong. (Applause.) He's making a big, big
difference in the Senate. He's fun to work with -- most of the
time. (Laughter.) He's plenty capable and he knows what he's
doing -- and he married well. We love Kathy a lot. (Applause.)
It turns out when the President comes, a lot of people show
up that you have to recognize. I'm working my way through. I
can't wait to tell you why I'm running again. (Laughter.) Before
I do I've got to talk about two members of the United States
Congress, as a matter of fact, the only members of the United
States Congress from New Hampshire, but really fine people.
First, Charlie Bass is with us today. (Applause.) Where are you,
Bass? There he is, yes. I don't know what you did, but you
deserve a better seat than that. (Laughter.) Okay, well -- and
Jeb Bradley. Thanks for coming, Congressman. I appreciate it.
(Applause.)
We've got the Mayor, my friend, Bernie Streeter, who is here.
I appreciate you coming, Bernie. You know, people don't like
advice from one politician to another, but here's my advice --
fill the potholes. (Laughter and applause.) You don't have to
take it if you don't want to.
Where's Cheryl? Cheryl McGuiness, sweet Cheryl McGuiness, the
widow of American Airline Flight 11 pilot, Tom McGuiness. One of
the strongest characters of our country. I'm proud of you.
Thanks for coming. God bless you. Thank you. (Applause.) You're
a sweet girl. Thank you all for coming. A woman of enormous
strength.
You know, I talk about a more hopeful America. Part of a more
hopeful America is a better America. That's why we've got to
make sure our education system is right. We worked hard in
Washington, D.C. to change an attitude of the federal
government. The attitude used to be, here, we'll just give you
some money and hope everything turns out right. And it didn't
work. So when I went to Washington, I said, why don't we
challenge what I call the soft bigotry of low expectations,
raise the bar, expect results. (Applause.)
We've increased federal funding, but in return for increase
of federal funding, we're finally asking the question, can a
child read? See, that's what we're asking. And we want to know.
We want to know whether or not we're accomplishing the mission.
And if a child can't read early, there's money in the budget to
correct the problem before it is too late. We're challenging
this notion that simply said, there's some kids you just can't
educate, so move them through. That's not good enough for a
better America. That's not good enough for a hopeful America.
(Applause.)
And it's working. The system is working. There's an
achievement gap in America, and it's beginning to close. You
know how we know? Because we measure. It's working because
school districts have found certain curriculum can't work, and
they're changing. You see, accountability is necessary to
diagnose and solve a problem. You'll hear the critics say, oh,
measurement, all that does is punish. No, measurement saves
lives. How can you correct a problem unless you measure?
And there's more work to be done. We got to make sure there's
math and science in our high school classrooms so our kids have
the skills necessary to compete in this global economy. We need
serious intervention programs for 8th and 9th graders who have
been shuffled through the system so they got at least the
foundation necessary to learn and think. We need to make sure a
high school diploma means something. There's more work to be
done to make sure this education system raises expectations and
meets expectations across the country. I believe strongly in
local control of schools. I believe strongly in empowering
parents. I believe strongly in challenging the status quo when
schools will not teach. (Applause.)
A better tomorrow -- a better tomorrow is one where
government recognizes its limitations. See, I don't think
government can love. I think government should dispense justice.
But government is not a loving organization. The strength of
this country lies in the hearts and souls of our citizens. And a
President and a governor ought to rally that great compassion
found in the hearts and souls of our citizens. That's why the
faith-based and community-based initiative is so vital for an
optimistic future. (Applause.)
I'll give you example of what I'm talking about. Sometimes a
government program can help heal an addict, and we ought to
herald those programs. But sometimes an addict needs a change of
heart before he or she changes behavior. And therefore, we ought
to welcome those programs which have the capacity to change a
person's heart into the social fabric of the American system.
Government ought not to fear -- (applause) -- government ought
not to fear programs based on faith. We ought not to
discriminate against faith -- programs based on faith. We ought
to welcome faith-based programs to help heal broken hearts in
society. (Applause.)
Today -- where's Alison? Okay, hold on. We got too much work
to do. We got too much work to do -- too many interruptions
here. (Laughter.) Thank you.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: We love you --
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I appreciate that. I love New Hampshire.
(Applause.)
Okay, one of the interesting ways that I try to make points
is to have others make them for me. And Alison Brackett is with
us today. She runs a program called Bridges of Learning. And
where are you based?
MS. BRACKETT: Out of Greenland, New Hampshire.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, she's clearly from New Hampshire.
(Laughter.) So you probably never heard of Bridges of Learning,
nor Alison. She's here because she is a social entrepreneur.
Tell us what you did.
MS. BRACKETT: We are a organization that collects and then
distributes school materials, supplies, and needs throughout the
world.
THE PRESIDENT: Right, okay. Isn't that amazing? Think about
this. And so when did you start? Who told you to start this?
MS. BRACKETT: My children. (Laughter and applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: You've got some good kids. So it wasn't a
government program. The President didn't say, start this. The
Governor didn't say, we're going to pass a resolution in the New
Hampshire House for you to do it. She heard a call.
And so what do you do? I know you distribute school supplies.
Give us a little -- some details.
MS. BRACKETT: Well, my children and an army of volunteers go
around to various schools and supply houses and churches and
organizations, like the Seacoast Republican Women, and they
collect the supplies we need, we box them up, and we ship them
around the world. And currently, we ship them to our Army that
is stationed in Afghanistan. (Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, okay, wait a minute -- yes. (Applause.) I
think you're beginning to get the picture of what I'm talking
about when I say, we're going to call upon the army of
compassion in America to respond. See, this isn't a government
program. This is a program based upon the hearts of a family,
who said, what can we do to make a contribution in our society?
How can we make America and the world a better place?
So think about this. They've collected school supplies.
They're shipping them to Afghanistan. Some soldier is going to
hand a school supply to a young girl who, by the way, now goes
to school for the first time thanks to the United States of
America. (Applause.)
One other question. It says here that you ship 45 boxes every
two weeks.
MS. BRACKETT: Yes. Yes, sir.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, fantastic. Listen, thanks for coming.
MS. BRACKETT: Thank you.
THE PRESIDENT: Here's why I've asked her to come. I know many
of you here and people around New Hampshire also hear a call to
help. You see, societies can change because the Allisons of the
world take it upon themselves to change society. And the role of
a President is to call upon and herald and thank the soldiers in
the armies of compassion that will change this country one heart
at a time.
Thanks for coming. (Applause.)
MS. BRACKETT: Thank you.
THE PRESIDENT: A more hopeful America -- a more hopeful
America is one in which people can work. It's hard to be a
hopeful society if you're not working and you want to work. So
one of the most important parts of my job during the next four
years will be to continue to create an environment that is
conducive to job growth. See, I don't think the role of
government is to create wealth. The role of government is to
create an environment in which the entrepreneurial spirit is
strong, in which small businesses can thrive and flourish.
(Applause.)
And as mentioned, our economy has been through a lot. When
you're out there garnering the vote, remind your friends and
neighbors what we have been through. We've been through a
recession. That means we're going backwards. It's hard to be a
small business in a recession, by the way. We've been through
corporate scandals. That's when certain citizens forgot what it
meant to be a responsible American and did not tell the truth.
By the way, we've changed that attitude in America, too. It's
clear now we're not going to tolerate dishonesty in the
boardrooms of America. (Applause.)
And we've been through a terror attack, all of which affected
our economy. But the economy is growing, and it's getting
better, and it's strengthening. Why? Because the entrepreneurial
spirit is strong in America, because we've got the greatest
workers in the world, because our farmers and ranchers are the
best in the world. I happen to think, as well, it's because of
two well-timed tax cuts. (Applause.)
Benson tells me the unemployment rate here is 3.9 percent --
3.8 percent. It's dropping every second. (Laughter.) The tax
relief plan, the economic stimulus plan we passed is working
here in the Granite State -- 3.8 percent -- (applause.) That's
what we want in America, isn't it? We want people working.
And so the question is how do we keep jobs here and how do we
keep the economy growing. Well, I believe the most important
thing is to make sure this is the best country in the world to
do business. If you want businesses to expand, America has got
to be the best place in the world to do business, which means --
let me tell you what that means. It means we've got to have an
energy policy. We've got to be less dependent on foreign sources
of energy in order to make this a good place. (Applause.)
We've got to have trade policy. We've opened up a good trade
policy. We have trade policy. And here's what good trade policy
means. We've opened up our markets. See, it's good for you that
our markets are open, because the more products you have to
choose from, the more likely it is you're going to get better
quality at a better price. That's how the market works. So good
trade policy says, we'll open up our markets, you open up yours.
You treat us the way we treat you. And that's the policy of this
administration. We're knocking down trade barriers. We're
opening up doors. I believe the American worker and the American
farmer can compete with anybody, anytime, anywhere so long as
the rules are fair. (Applause.)
So when you see us talking about unfair trade practices from
China, that's what we're doing. We're making sure the rules are
fair. That's all we want to be, is treated fairly. In order to
make sure that this economy continues to grow, we've got to do
something about the cost of health care. (Applause.) Most --
most -- most people get their health care through their jobs.
Finally -- I may go on for a long time on health care. What
I'm telling you is we're not going to nationalize health care
under George W. (Applause.) And my opponent is, see. That's the
difference. My opponent will; we won't.
Finally, I'll tell you one way to hold down costs -- this is
a -- I'm telling you, I'm about to explain to you a national
problem. You know how I know? I hear it everywhere I go,
everywhere I go. I hear it from OB-GYNs, I hear it from
specialists. These frivolous lawsuits that are being filed
against docs are running up your health care costs and are
running good docs out of business. (Applause.)
This is a national problem that requires a national solution.
I do not think you can be pro-doctor and pro-patient and
pro-hospital, and pro-plaintiff attorney at the same time. I
think you have to choose. (Applause.) I think you have to
choose. My opponent made his choice and he put him on the
ticket. (Applause.) I made my choice -- I am for medical
liability reform now. (Applause.)
Let me make three other quick points, then I want to talk
about how to make this country more secure. And then, if I don't
filibuster, I'll answer some questions. (Laughter.) I can see
Laura beginning to grimace a little bit. She says, he's getting
awfully windy. (Laughter.) Texas term. Anyway -- (Laughter.)
Look, in order to keep jobs here, we've got to use our community
college systems wisely. We have a changing economy and in a
changing economy, there are new jobs available, higher paying
jobs than the old jobs -- jobs of the past. But people need
skills in order to fill those jobs. So I support what I call a
lifetime of learning, to help these workers go back to our
community colleges so they can gain the skills necessary to fill
the jobs of the 21st century.
I'll tell you a classic example of what I'm talking about. We
were at Mesa Community College in Arizona, and a lady stood up
and she said, I'm a graphic design artist for 12 years, and then
I heard of a program to help somebody in her status go back to a
community college, federal program. That where we provide money
to help people go back to school if they want to go back to
school. She went back to school, received an associate degree --
I think it was after 18 months. And after 18 months of a
community college experience, she made more money in her first
year of working for her new company than she did in the 12th
year of her previous job. You know why? Education enhances the
productivity of the work force. It makes people more likely to
fill the jobs of the 21st century, and a more productive worker
is a worker who will make more money. (Applause.)
Finally -- finally, we got a plan to continue to grow this
economy. I'm running because I understand how to put the
conditions in place to encourage economic growth and vitality.
And there's two other things we need to do. One is we got to be
wise about how we spend your money. Be real careful about people
who are running for office and say, well, here's what we're
going to do with government money. See, if you have that
mentality that we're spending the government's money, they don't
understand what they're talking about, because it's not the
government's money we're talking about, it's your money. It's
the people's money. (Applause.)
And secondly, secondly, in order to make sure this economy
grows, we've got to keep your taxes low. (Applause.) And there
are some folks in Washington who do not want to keep your taxes
low. Here's what I believe. I believe we can set priorities,
meet those priorities, and then you can spend your money far
better than the federal government can. (Applause.)
And it's an issue in this campaign. We got ample money to
meet our priorities -- unless, of course, you believe that the
federal government ought to be the -- ought to be given you
orders. (Laughter.) And I'm running against a fellow who has
already promised over $2 trillion of spending -- new spending.
And we're just -- we haven't even gotten to the stretch run yet.
(Laughter.) Awfully tempting to get out there and tell people
what they want to hear. And so they said, how are you going to
pay for it? He said, oh, I'm just going to tax the rich. We've
heard that kind of talk before -- tax the rich. The rich dodge,
you pay. But the good news is we're not going to let him tax you
because we're going to win in November. (Applause.)
Okay, hold on. September the 11th changed America. I'm
running for four more years because I want to make this country
a safer place, change your sweet life. (Applause.) That day
taught us that oceans no longer protect us from harm's way, that
suddenly and unexpectedly, an enemy can strike us, and,
therefore, we've got to do a lot to protect the homeland. And we
are. We've created the Department of Homeland Security to better
coordinate between the federal, state and local jurisdictions
how to respond to threats and how to deal with emergency.
We're going to talk here in a minute to the district chief of
the Manchester Fire Department, Nick Campasano. Right -- yes,
there he is. (Applause.) Let me just say a couple of things. You
can stay standing. I'll give you a chance to warm up.
(Laughter.) Got to loosen up.
A couple of things I want to say about protecting the
homeland, we've got to make sure we've got the best
intelligence-sharing possible. We are working hard to make sure
the intelligence agencies are well coordinated, and information
makes it to my desk and to the other planners' desks -- there's
strategists' desks in Washington, D.C. I've got great confidence
in the Central Intelligence Agency. I just know we can make sure
that we've got to do a better job of collecting information and
analyzing information so that we can better protect you. It's
very important that we enable the FBI and the CIA to share
information.
You're not going to believe this, but prior to September the
11th, the operators in the FBI could not share information with
the intelligence gatherers of the FBI. That's just the way it
was. So you might have an entity find out that something that
looked like a terrorist activity was going on, but they couldn't
tell the people who were responsible for busting the cell.
That's why we passed the Patriot Act. The Patriot Act is a vital
tool -- (applause) -- the Patriot Act is a vital tool fo our
first responders. They know it. And I want to assure you that
anytime that we use the tools of the Patriot Act, we get court
order. In other words, we go to a judge.
What I'm telling you is, is that we've given law enforcement
the same tools with the same constitutional guarantees for our
citizens that we've given them to track down drug dealers and
white-collar criminals. The terrorist act is important. You need
me in there for four more years to make sure it's renewed so the
people on the front lines of busting these cells are able to do
so. (Applause.)
And so we're going to have a little talk with Nick here. One
of the -- one of the budgetary increases that we worked with
Judd and the Congressmen on was to increase money for first
responders. Just -- let me take a step back. Outside of funding
for the war, and I believe -- you'll hear me talk about funding
for the war -- and homeland security, non-discretionary spending
will increase by less than 1 percent on the budget I submitted
to the Congress. In other words, we're being wise with your
money. But one of the places where we have increased the budget
is with our first responders -- for a reason, and that is to
best secure our homeland.
What has it meant, Nick? Tell me, it's your mike. You run
with it like you want to run with it. Here's your chance.
Cameras everywhere. (Laughter.)
* * * * *
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, let me stop him there. First of all, I
want to thank the Governor and thank Nick for working on this.
This is a very important statement he just made, because in
order to better secure the homeland, there has to be the
willingness of people to share assets across city boundaries or
county boundaries, state lines, as well. If something were to
happen in Massachusetts, I can assure you, Craig Benson would
say, let's move some assets down there to protect. And this is a
vital part of making sure the taxpayers' money is spent wisely.
And I want to thank you for doing that. (Applause.)
It's not a given, by the way. What he just said is not a
given. It sounds simple, but we're talking government.
(Laughter.) Seriously.
* * * * *
THE PRESIDENT: Okay, I want you to do me a favor. I want to
take -- I want you to thank the people who work with you for
their sacrifice to this community. (Applause.) Please.
MR. CAMPASANO: On behalf of the emergency responders in the
state of New Hampshire, we would like to thank you, Mr.
President, for your support.
THE PRESIDENT: All right, thanks. (Applause.)
My most solemn duty -- my most solemn duty, and our most
solemn duty in Washington, is to protect the American people.
And I'm going to share with you some lessons I learned. And then
we'll talk to a couple of more folks, and I'll answer some
questions.
Lesson one is that the enemy is ruthless and cold-blooded,
and you cannot negotiate with them and hope for the best.
(Applause.) They are -- they don't have a conscience. We do.
These are radical ideologues who have a hateful vision of the
world and are willing to use terror to try to shake our will.
That's the facts. And we've -- we got to deal with it. And the
best way to deal with them is to bring them to justice in
foreign lands before they hurt us again. And that requires --
(applause.) thank you all. (Applause.) Okay, thanks. (Applause.)
Stay seated. Thank you, thanks. (Applause.) Thank you all.
(Applause.)
That requires -- that requires a couple of things. It
requires full utilization of all our assets. It means we've got
to work with friends and allies to cut off money, to share
intelligence. It means we've got to deploy brave troops. It
means we've got to work with law enforcement. It means a
full-scale offensive campaign, and an unrelenting campaign. It's
necessary to be clear-visioned and never yielding to these
people. (Applause.)
The second lesson -- the second lesson is that this is a
different kind of war, and in order to make America more secure,
we have to send a message to those who would provide safe haven
for these killers. These are -- they don't represent a country;
these people represent an ideology. And what they look for are
weak countries. They want to become the parasite, and they want
the host nation to become infected with their dim vision. It's
just the reality of the 21st century. And therefore, I thought
it was very important to send a clear message that said if you
harbor a terrorist, if you provide safe haven for these people,
you're just as guilty as they are. (Applause.)
Now, when the America President -- when the American
President speaks, he must do so clearly, and he must mean what
he says, in order to make the world a more peaceful place.
(Applause.) So I meant what I said. I meant what I said. And the
Taliban didn't believe us. So we put together a coalition and
removed them from power. And it's not easy work to do that, by
the way. It was hard work, and I want to -- if there's some
troops here, or families of troops here that have done this
work, I want to thank them.
But I want you -- let me -- let me get on -- I'm going to
talk to this point real quick. Afghanistan is a better place
because the Taliban has been routed, and America is safer
because al Qaeda can no longer train there.
Now, let me talk about Afghanistan right quick. You might
remember the incident when four women were pulled off a bus and
killed because they were registering to vote, or had registered
to vote. And a lot of people said, well, gosh, this is going to
stop the movement of liberty in that country. It was going to
intimidate. Those people did not understand how powerful freedom
is to people who have been suppressed. Do you realize that in
Afghanistan over 10 million citizens have registered to vote? It
is a phenomenal -- (applause) -- 10 million.
The Taliban can't stop this movement toward liberty because
freedom is universal. Freedom is inherent in people's souls.
They want to be free. Our job in Afghanistan is to provide
enough security so they can have presidential elections on
October the 8th of this year. Think how far we have come from
the days of al Qaeda being able to train and plot against the
United States of America, And three short years later, they will
have presidential elections. Freedom is powerful in this world.
(Applause.)
Another lesson -- and this is a vital lesson, and it's an
important lesson that we must never forget -- is that when we
see a threat, we must
take it seriously before it comes to be, before it fully
materializes. That's one of the important lessons of September
the 11th. This country must never forget it. So I saw a threat
in Saddam Hussein. And let me tell you why I did. He was an
enemy of the country. Step one in determining threats is whether
or not they like us or hate us. He was an enemy. He was actually
shooting missiles, weapons at our pilots who were enforcing the
world's sanctions. In other words, we not only knew he was an
enemy, he was taking hostile action against U.S. pilots. He
harbored terrorists in his country. Remember Abu Nidal? Leon
Klinghoffer? He was the guy that was murdered because he
happened to be Jewish. The Abu Nidal organization was housed and
based out of Baghdad. That is a terrorist organization. Zarqawi,
the cold-blooded person who beheads people just like that, was
in and out of Baghdad. He's a terrorist. Saddam Hussein had used
weapons of mass destruction. He had the kind of mentality where
he not only had them, he used them against his own people. If he
would use them against his own people, wouldn't he have used
them against his enemy?
And so I saw him as a threat, and went to the Congress, and
said, 9/11 has changed the world. We must take threats seriously
-- and went up the Congress. And the Congress debated the issue
of whether or not we ought to deal with threats seriously, and
in a strong resolution said, we will deal with Saddam Hussein,
and if need be, Mr. President, you've got the authorization to
use force. They looked at the intelligence I looked at. My
opponent looked at the same intelligence and came to the same
conclusion. He voted for the resolution.
The last choice of any President ought to be to commit troops
into combat. We ought to try everything possible before we
commit one soul into combat. And that's why I went to the United
Nations. I said, we see a threat. How about you? You've passed
resolutions before -- resolution after resolution after
resolution. And I said -- so I said, there's a new world here.
After September the 11th, we must take threats seriously. And
they looked at the intelligence, and they remembered the
evidence of Saddam Hussein. And with a 15-to-nothing vote in the
United Nations Security Council, they said, disclose, disarm, or
face serious consequences. That is what the free world said.
Saddam Hussein listened to the free world again and totally
ignored it. You know, I don't want to put words in his mouth,
but I guess it was something along these lines: who cares what
they say? (Laughter.) And so there were some discussions about,
well, why don't we send inspectors into the country? I thought
that made sense. Before we commit troops, we ought to try
everything, everything possible. And so we sent inspectors in,
and as history has shown, he systematically deceived the
inspectors. So I have a choice to make at this point in history,
whether to forget the lessons of September the 11th, take the
word of a madman, or defend our country. Given that choice, I
will defend America every time. (Applause.) Thank you all.
Is that your dad? Okay, thanks.
Let me -- a couple more points I want to make to you, and
then I'll be glad to answer some questions. The goal in
Afghanistan and Iraq is to provide enough security so the
political process can get started and to train Iraqis and
Afghans they can do the hard work of defending their freedom.
That's our goal. It's in our interest to achieve that goal.
Liberty has -- liberty is powerful. Liberty can transform
societies. Free societies are peaceful societies. Free societies
are societies that don't export terror. Free societies are
societies that listen to the hopes and aspirations of their
people. Liberty is a strong, strong, powerful force in this
world. I believe it's transforming.
I spent time with Prime Minister Koizumi. And Laura and I
were having Kobe beef with him, there in Tokyo. He's the Prime
Minister of a county that my Dad fought against. And your dads
or grandfathers fought against them, too. They were an enemy.
That was a rough war. And here we were sitting down talking
about peace. See, we were talking about the North Korean
Peninsula, how best to achieve peace. It dawned on me then, that
thankfully, my predecessor and others believed in the power of
liberty to change an enemy into a friend. And that's what
happened after World War II. There was great vision and depth of
feeling about what we believe. There was the courage not to
waver in the face of serious criticism. And as a result, by
sticking to what we believe, Japan became a self-governing,
democratic nation. And here, Koizumi and I are talking about
peace. It's amazing, isn't it, what liberty can do. (Applause.)
Let me finish -- let me finish right quick. That's what is
happening. That's why I say this is an historic moment. Some day
an elected President will sit down with an elected Iraqi
official talking about how to keep the peace. Liberties can
transform societies. Liberty is a powerful, powerful agent of
change. Freedom is not America's gift to the world; freedom is
the Almighty God's gift to each man and woman in this world.
(Applause.)
Today, we've got -- (Applause.) Thank you, all. Let me --
okay, thanks. (Applause.) A couple of more points and we're
going to talk to a mom whose son is there in Iraq. Just a couple
of more points.
The Iraqi citizens are watching us real carefully. They want
to know whether or not we're going to stick to our word. Prime
Minister Allawi is a good guy. He believes in democracy. He
wants us to help. We're there to help them help themselves.
That's what we're going to do. And we'll get the job done as
quickly as possible, and then we'll bring our troops home -- not
one day longer than necessary. (Applause.)
Speaking about troops, Christine Burritt is with us. I'll
call her Mom, because that's what 2nd Lieutenant Adam Burritt
calls her. Where is Adam and what does he do?
MRS. BURRITT: Adam is a platoon leader. He's a 2nd lieutenant
with the Charlie Company mountain infantry unit, from
Manchester, New Hampshire. (Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: Very good.
MRS. BURRITT: He's stationed 40 miles north of Baghdad in a
place called LSA Anaconda.
THE PRESIDENT: Right.
MRS. BURRITT: And they do convoy missions, security, and
other missions as defined -- which he doesn't tell his mom
about.
THE PRESIDENT: That's good. (Laughter.) Particularly with all
these cameras looking at you.
MRS. BURRITT: That's right.
THE PRESIDENT: So, have you heard from Adam?
MRS. BURRITT: We got an instant message from him a week ago
--
THE PRESIDENT: Oh, good.
-- saying he was going out on the road.
THE PRESIDENT: Right. One of the things that's really
important is for me to be able to look at the moms and say, our
government is supporting your son so that he can complete his
mission. That's why I went to the Congress and proposed an $87
billion supplemental, so that Adam would have what was needed to
be able to complete his mission. That's for body armor and fuel
and spare parts and health benefits and hazard pay. It's
well-received on the floor of the Senate and the House -- the
request. As a matter, it received huge bipartisan support. That
means Republicans and Democrats voted for it -- so strong that
only 12 senators voted against it, two of whom are my opponent
and his running mate.
AUDIENCE: Booo!
THE PRESIDENT: I'm looking you in the eye and telling you,
your son is going to have what he needs. And that's important
that -- (applause.) When you're out gathering the vote, you
might remind them what the explanation was. He said, I actually
did vote for the $87 billion right before I voted against it.
(Laughter.) I don't remember a lot of people talking like that
in New Hampshire when I was campaigning up here in 2000. The
people up here are straightforward. Then they pushed him hard,
and he said he was proud of the vote, and finally said, it was a
complicated matter. There's nothing complicated about supporting
her son in harm's way. (Applause.)
Got anything else you want to say? Okay, go ahead.
MRS. BURRITT: The family support group from Mountain Company
would like to thank you for your love, your support, and your
care for our troops overseas, all the troops overseas. And just
to -- just to add something to that, that yellow ribbon magnet
that I gave to you earlier, we feel like those magnets are
planting seeds of patriotism around the state and around the
country. (Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: Well, thank you, very much. What Christine --
(applause) -- she's involved -- (applause.) One of the things I
find out where I travel is there's all kinds of support groups,
which is so strong and so American, isn't it? They've got the
Mountain Family Support Group. And for those of you who are
involved with supporting the families of our troops, I want to
thank you for that. It means a lot. It really means a lot for
people to know that our fellow citizens care about a lonely soul
who may be waiting for loved one to return.
Speaking about loved ones to return, Jackie Ceurvels is with
us today. Jackie is --(laughter) -- she's going to be a mother
again. (Laughter.) All right, Jackie. We're talking about Jim.
MRS. CEURVELS: Yes.
THE PRESIDENT: And?
MS. CEURVELS: Jim, my husband, he with the 172nd out of
Nashua. He is a squad leader with the 3rd Platoon. From the
beginning, we don't want him to be there -- just for our
reasons, selfish reasons. And he misses home. But he feels the
need -- he says if we could see what he sees in Iraq, everyone
would know why he's there. And he looks into the children eyes,
and he says, the kids are so happy to see them come. And they
help the kids out. Our family support group is in the process of
sending clothes over to the Iraqi children, and our support
group is also doing a rally -- a Support Our Troops rally on
October 16th, here in Nashua, at Greeley Park. And that is how
we are all getting through it, together as a family. And we just
thank everyone, and just -- support our troops because they're
there as their duty, and they truly believe in what they're
doing over there.
THE PRESIDENT: I appreciate you saying that, thank you, thank
you. (Applause.) Very good job.
MRS. CEURVELS: Thank you. (Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: I want to thank Jackie, thank Mom. We'll
complete the mission. I think it's very important for the loved
ones to hear from the Commander-in-Chief that we'll complete the
mission. See, that's the best way we can honor their service, is
to complete the mission, because the mission will make this
world a more peaceful place. That's what we want. We long for
peace. The enemy changed the -- changed the dynamics, didn't
they? They attacked us, and it calls us to a new duty. And the
duty is to protect the country. And our duty -- I believe it's
our duty -- is to lead the world toward peace. And that's
exactly what I intend to do over the next four years.
(Applause.)
So that's why I'm running. And that's why I'm asking for the
vote. And now in the great New Hampshire tradition, I'll be glad
to take some questions. Who's got a question? Yes, sir. We got a
mike for you right there. Okay, hold on. We need to hear this
one. Now crank it up.
Q Can you hear me?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, sir.
Q I happen to be a Pearl Harbor survivor. And God was good to
me over there.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. (Applause.)
Q I spent 41 months overseas. I enlisted for two years
foreign service, and I love my country to the bitter end. And I
think you're doing a wonderful job. But just a minute --
(applause.) Just a minute. I got two young couples here that
their sons are in Iraq, and they love you, too.
THE PRESIDENT: I thank you. Thank you, sir. (Applause.) Thank
you all.
I'll get you in a minute. What do you got there? (Applause.)
You going to give me that banner? Okay. I'm going to come over
and give you a kiss on the way out. (Laughter.) Thank you for
your service.
It's interesting, isn't it -- he survived Pearl Harbor. There
are people today who, 30 years from now, are going to say, I
survived the attack on September the 11th. And the fundamental
question is that, will we have the same determination, the same
desire to defend ourselves and to spread freedom and liberty
like those who survived the attacks during that era? That's the
fundamental question facing this country. You know where I
stand. I believe that we must never yield. I believe we must
have the absolute determination and resolve to not only defend
ourself, but to believe in the great transforming power of
liberty to make this world a better place for all of us.
The fundamental -- you see, right after World War II, people
said, well, we're not so sure the Japanese can self-govern. They
were our enemy. They weren't like us. But liberty is bigger than
religion. Liberty is bigger than race. You heard where I think
liberty comes from. It is a powerful part of the human soul. And
I believe that the people in Iraq not only want to, but can
self-govern. That's what Jackie said her husband has seen. He
said he looks in the eyes of kids who are thrilled their
liberators are there.
Let me tell you an interesting story. It's so good, I may use
it next Thursday night. (Laughter.) Ignore I said that.
(Laughter.) The Oval Office, first of all, is a powerful shrine
to democracy. It's an intimidating place. There's only two
people I've ever had in there that weren't intimated -- or
three: Barney -- (laughter) -- Judd -- (laughter) -- and Mother.
(Laughter and applause.)
The door opens up, and in walks seven guys who have got Xs
carved in their foreheads and their right hands had been cut off
by Saddam Hussein's henchmen. And they came in to see me. They
-- they had been in Houston, Texas, where they had new hands put
on because of the generosity and the compassion of people who
live in the free world. It was a -- I'm telling you, it was a
powerful moment. It was a -- such a stark contrast. I said to
the guy, why your hand -- why did your hand get cut off? He
said, because I was a small business owner, and the Saddam dinar
had devalued and he needed a scapegoat. See, this guy went and
sold Iraqi currency to buy another currency so he could buy gold
so he could make jewelry. And he just happened to have a
transaction the day the dictator decided to take action and
teach people a lesson, in order to cover up his own deficiencies
as a tyrant and a leader.
So these guys walk in the Oval Office. You can imagine. I
mean, it is -- first of all, I told you, it's overwhelming. But
it was overwhelming for me. I'm kind of a crier sometimes.
(Laughter.) And the contrast was so unbelievably powerful, the
difference between a society where a tyrant can whimsically cut
off a poor guy's hand, and a society that is compassionate
enough to help heal that hurt. This guy takes his pen and he
writes a prayer to America on it. I'm telling you, it is -- we
are saving lives, and in so doing, making the world a better
place, and in so doing, making this country a more secure place.
Tyranny -- you know, the fact that people starve in this
globe bothers me. Do you know your country has more food for
starvation around the world, by far, than any country in the
world? There is a pandemic of HIV/AIDS on the continent of
Africa that we are leading the charge against. The United States
of America has put up, by far, more money than any nation, or
collection of nations, to help save lives. This country is
leading. We're not only leading in the cause of freedom and
security, we're leading in the cause of freedom by helping to
defeat disease and hunger, as well.
We are a compassionate nation to whom much is given, much is
required -- is what I believe of the United States of America.
And we are leading this world. (Applause.)
Let's see. Yes, ma'am. Crank her up. (Applause.) Start
talking. They'll figure it out, yes.
Q I'm a state rep from Nashua, New Hampshire. Mr. President,
I want to thank you for being a man of action and a President of
principle. (Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. I appreciate that. How is the
Governor? Has he vetoed any of your bills? (Laughter.) No,
that's good.
Q No, I'm a great supporter of Governor Benson. I'd love to
see two more years with the Governor.
THE PRESIDENT: Okay, good, thank you.
Q It's nice to have an entrepreneur in there. (Applause.) My
question is about decision-making. Sir, I had a radio show in
Lowell, and I had Mr. Kerry on frequently, and I never saw a man
before who actually changed his mind mid-sentence, but this man
does it. (Laughter.) How do you make decisions, sir? And what do
you think about the importance in this era of making a strong
and swift decision?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I appreciate it. That's a great question.
It ought to be "the" question to people running for President.
Because you know why? This is a job in which requires a lot of
decision-making. I make a lot of decisions. A lot of them you'll
never know about. Obviously, some you do.
Step one is a good decision-maker is somebody who knows what
he believes and knows the principles by which he'll make
decisions. (Applause.) You just heard -- you just heard
something I believe. I believe that liberty can transform. I
believe that. It is a core part of my soul and being. So part of
my decision-making is to adhere to principle.
Secondly, a good decision-maker is somebody who listens well,
and listens to capable, smart people. One of the things that can
happen in Washington, D.C. is that people walk in that Oval
Office, and they like to look at you and say, man, you're
looking pretty. (Laughter.) And you may not be so pretty.
(Laughter.) So you got to have people who walk in and tell you
the truth. It's really important in Washington, D.C.,
particularly in the complex world in which we live, is to
surround yourself with capable, smart people. I have got capable
smart people. As a matter of fact, no administration has
empowered more women in positions of power than the Bush
administration has done. (Applause.) I like people -- I don't
want everybody sitting around the table to feel the same way. I
want them to -- I want people to feel comfortable saying, you're
wrong, or you're right. Yes, no. I mean, it's important to have
good, constructive debate in decision-making.
Thirdly, you've got to be able to decide. When you get all
the facts, you have to actually be able to make the decision.
And when you make the decision, you've got to stand by your
decision. (Applause.)
That's a great question. I thank you for that very much. And
in Washington, D.C., when you make the decision, you best have
people around you who say, yes, sir, Mr. President, and go
execute. And that's what I've got. I've got a great team and a
wonderful group of people who have served our country.
(Applause.)
Yes, ma'am, in the blue shirt. Crank it out there. They're
charging up there, they got mikes. Mikes to the left of you,
mikes to the right of you.
Q My name is Sarah and I'm actually on the e-board for the
New England College chapter of College Republicans in Henniker.
And we've been doing everything we can to support our
candidates, and what we have is a question -- well, actually, we
had a lot of the other candidates come and speak, and we were
hoping that maybe you and your campaign -- and this is for any
other candidates, our governor, our senators -- if you would
come and speak to our school and let them hear your point of
view, personally.
THE PRESIDENT: Okay. Well, I appreciate that. One option, in
case I can't make it -- (laughter) -- is to, like -- would you
loan her a videotape of this, so she can show it? (Laughter.)
We'll be back in New Hampshire. Thank you for the invitation.
We'll be back a lot. (Applause.)
Yes, sir. One reason they were here is you had a primary. You
might remember 2000, we were here a lot. (Laughter.)
Yes, sir.
Q Before my question I'd like to say thank you for your
leadership and your strength. I appreciate it. (Applause.) One
of the false charges from your opponents is that you've been
neglecting veterans. I was wondering if you could address that
criticism.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, thanks, I appreciate you saying that. I
made a commitment to our veterans that we would support them,
and we met that commitment. And let me tell you, let me just
give you the facts -- that our spending for veterans during the
last four years, when they approved this budget, during the four
years I've been President, will be bigger than the spending for
veterans under my predecessor during eight years. (Applause.)
It's a fact. The waiting time for our veterans has been reduced
substantially. Concurrent receipts for our veterans is now law,
and I signed it. We are making sure that the facilities for our
veterans have been updated and modernized.
No, my record on the veterans is a strong record. And one of
the reasons why is I've had good support from the members of
Congress, and also I put a Secretary of Veterans Affair named
Tony Principi in as the Secretary, who has done a fabulous job.
(Applause.)
And I want to thank you for giving me a chance to talk about
that. See, in Washington, one of the problems you got is you got
some good talkers. The question is, are they doers. And I'm
looking forward to laying out my record on what we've
accomplished, based upon the facts during the course of this
campaign. We got a great record when it comes to veterans. And
we'll have a great record over the next four years when it comes
to veterans, as well.
Yes, sir, what have you got?
Q Mr. President, thank you for your leadership, Mr.
President. God bless you. It's a difficult job and you've done a
great job for us. You brought us back after 9/11. It was a
tremendous blow that day and we were emotionally crushed as a
ct. But you brought us back all the way. And thank you and God
bless you.
I watched the Reagan funeral, Mr. President, and a lot of
what President Reagan had to deal with in bringing our country
back, you have basically the same challenges and you have the
same challenges. And I was -- just wanted to know, since this is
Nashua, where he was famous in saying --
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I remember that one well. (Laughter.)
Something about a microphone. (Laughter.)
Q Mr. President, how is Mrs. Reagan doing? I know you met
with her.
THE PRESIDENT: Thanks for asking. She's doing great. Laura
and I dropped by to see her. Thanks for the question. She is a
very strong woman, and we admire her a lot. We went by to see
her in her beautiful home in Los Angeles. She was -- her spirits
were up, after what had been a very difficult period in her
life. Although I will tell you, the outpouring of support and
love for President Reagan really lifted her spirits. I mean, it
was a tremendous show of support for the guy she loved.
(Applause.)
Yes, ma'am. No question about her, she loved it. She loved
Ronald Reagan a lot, and the country obviously loved him, too.
And it helped her a lot. We loved it -- she had some beautiful
trees she was showing us. It was an unbelievable yard, by the
way. It was spectacular. (Laughter.)
Q Mr. President, thank you. I actually -- I wanted to give
you a little bit of what you said you want. I appreciate so much
what you've done for the veterans. We still have a ways to go on
the concurrent receipt. What you've done, we are most grateful
for. You've made a great start on America keeping her promise to
her veterans. I just want you to know that there is -- a group
drove today from as far away as they could in New Hampshire,
troops families. And this little girl, when you asked her if
that was her dad, that was her grandad that is in Afghanistan.
Her uncle is in Iraq. Her mother is on the USS Harry Truman. Her
other uncle has already been to Iraq and is being deployed. And
this is their grandma who is watching them so their mother can
serve.
THE PRESIDENT: Fantastic. (Applause.)
Q And I was just -- we also brought -- we brought a lot of
special supporters today. Do we have a -- Blue Stars over there?
We brought a lot of families that wanted to come to show you
their support today for what you're doing for their families in
Iraq. And in addition, we have Ellen Goodchild whose daughter
was on the second plane into the World Trade Center, that is a
huge supporter of yours. And we want to thank you for all of
that support.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, thanks. God bless. (Applause.) Yes,
thank you, very much. I appreciate it.
Yes, ma'am. Go ahead and yell it out. The USS George H.W.
Bush. That's pretty powerful. It fits well. (Applause.) Career
sailor, right.
Q (Inaudible).
THE PRESIDENT: Yes. She wants to know whether or not we're
making progress. That's what she wants to know. You bet we are.
Ten million people have registered to vote; young girls are
going to school. I'll tell you an interesting story. My barber
in Washington, D.C., Zyra (phonetic), she goes out and she
raises $300,000 to build schools in Afghanistan. New schools are
opening up. I think she told me yesterday -- I hope it looks
like I got a good hair cut -- (laughter) -- that the schools
will have 7,000 kids.
So a major accomplishment is -- you've got to know -- and
it's hard to envision or believe this is the truth. Many young
girls were not allowed to go to school. That's the way the
Taliban viewed the world. That's the kind of vision of these
people we're defeating. That's what they believe. They believe
that girls shouldn't go to school. They believe that if you have
a difference of opinion on religion, you're taken out into the
public square and flogged. That's what they believe.
I'm in -- so I'm in Cleveland, Ohio to kick off the
International Children's Games. And a bunch of kids there, and
I'm standing up there ready to talk, and right to my right,
right on the front row, was the Afghanistan girls soccer team.
You know, there is an accomplishment there. These kids would no
more have been in the United States of America to play soccer
had we not -- had we not made the decision we made. (Applause.)
I'll tell you a couple of other examples. Prior to September
the 11th and prior to our actions, the leader of Libya had a
weapons of mass destruction program. And he heard a clear
message and voluntarily got rid of his weapons of mass
destruction program. There is action that took place as a result
of the actions we have taken, to uphold doctrine and to secure
ourself.
Prior to September the 11th, Pakistan was friendly with the
Taliban. And that could have been a very dangerous circumstance.
Because of our action and because of our leadership, President
Musharraf is an ally in the war on terror now. He's helping to
chase down al Qaeda in remote regions of his country. He's
helping to secure his borders as best as he can against the
Taliban from infiltrating to kill people who are getting
involved in the election. In other words, the world is changing.
And it's going to change more as we continue to spread freedom.
A trouble spot in the Middle East is obviously the
Palestinian-Israeli conflict. We're strong supporters of Israel.
Israel is our ally. And I believe the best way -- (applause.)
And I believe the best way to bring peace to that part of the
world is for a Palestinian state, based upon democracy, to
emerge. And so our vision is two states living side-by-side in
peace. A free Iraq will serve as a powerful example to the
Palestinian people that there's a better hope for them. See,
freedom and the example of freedom will empower women and
reformers and exiles and people who have been put in prison. It
will show that -- what's possible.
And I think it's a vital part of making sure this world is
more peaceful over the long run. There are some success stories,
and we're just getting started. There's more work. That's what
I'm here to tell you. We've done a lot, but there's more to do.
There's more to do to make this world a better place.
Yes, ma'am.
Q (Inaudible.)
THE PRESIDENT: You did? She went to Libya she said. Were you
on the shores of Tripoli?
Q (Inaudible) -- and I share their curiosity -- oh, thank
you. How can Ariel Sharon, as you've said, be a man of peace if
he causes death and torture among innocent Palestinians every
day? How can Ariel Sharon be a man of peace if he fits your
definition a terrorist? I'd be curious to hear how you plan to
carry out the two-state solution.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, good. No, that's a great a question.
First of all, Ariel Sharon is defending his country against
terrorist attacks, just like we will -- (applause.) He has made
the conscious decision that a Palestinian state is in his
nation's best interests. He's made that decision. Now, how do
you -- the right question is, how do you carry out the two-state
solution. That's what we have the road map for. The road map
says, here are the steps necessary in order for a Palestinian
state to emerge.
I also believe there's a leadership question involved with
whether or not a Palestinian state will emerge. See, I think in
order for a Palestinian state to emerge, there must be
leadership that believes in the hopes and aspirations of the
people, and are willing to put institutions in place that are
larger than mankind -- in other words, willing to have a system
based upon law and institutions that survive the people, as
opposed to a system in which one person pretty well dictates the
fate of the Palestinian people.
And so the real challenge is to not only stay on the road
map, which is institution-building -- and, by the way, there's
also a commitment to fight off terror -- but it's for leadership
to emerge that is committed to the aspirations of the people.
Ariel Sharon is a duly-elected official in a democracy. In
other words, Israel is a democracy. (Applause.) We would hope
that the Palestinians would have that same kind of democracy
which would lead to a more peaceful world.
Yes, ma'am.
Q Okay, I'm going to appear to be sophisticated, but I'm a
wreck.
THE PRESIDENT: That's what I try to do, too. I try to be
sophisticated and -- (Laughter.) I have trouble pulling it off,
though, you know? (Laughter.)
Q I do want to say it's an honor to be here today to meet
you, Mr. President. Okay -- and New Hampshire chicks love you.
(Applause.) I got to say that.
THE PRESIDENT: Okay. (Laughter.) So far you haven't acted
very sophisticated, I admit, you know? (Laughter.)
Q And if I knew nothing about politics I would vote for you
because of your moral values.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you.
Q I'm bringing you back to the health care.
THE PRESIDENT: Okay.
Q My husband and I are small business owners in New
Hampshire. My daughter is here with me today, and her husband
also is. I'm a breast cancer survivor of 10 years. (Applause.)
That's the good news. The bad news is we don't have health
insurance. For me to have it would be $1,200 a year. Now, I did
hear -- and you touched on that a little bit.
THE PRESIDENT: Health savings accounts -- yes.
Q I have made phone calls for three years and have gotten
nowhere at all. And I wanted to know, as a small business owner,
what can we do as small business owners to make a difference so
that we can also be insured?
THE PRESIDENT: Sure. I appreciate that. Well, first of all,
let me explain health savings accounts to you. And the reason
why you've called for the last three years and nothing has
happened is because they haven't been available until I signed
the Medicare reform law. And that's part of the new law. There
was something called medical savings accounts. But these health
savings accounts replaced them. And I really think you ought to
look into them. And I don't know if it will solve your
particular issue, but it is a big difference in terms of cost of
premium. And it also makes sure that, as I say, you're part of
the decision-making process, that you're directly involved with
what you spend and what you spend it on.
Secondly, association health plans are a very important way
to enable small businesses to pool risk. Now, what is your --
what do you do?
Q Heating and air-conditioning.
THE PRESIDENT: Heating and air-conditioning.
Q Heating and air-conditioning.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, see, here's the problem and -- is that
you're not able to spread your risk across enough employees to
be able to get insurance at a -- yes, two, that's not a lot. So
I think you ought to be able to take your business and pool
together with other heating and air-conditioning businesses,
whether they be in New Hampshire, or in Maryland, or in Texas,
or in California, so you've got more economies of risk. In other
words, you've got -- if you've got two employees you're trying
to insure, your premium is going to be much higher than if you
had a thousand employees you were spreading risk across. That's
how it works. Insurance premiums are based upon risk and the
spreading of risk. And so that's what -- when I'm talking about
what they call association health plans, admittedly it's kind of
long Washington words -- what that really means is, is that
heating and air-conditioning companies of like size, or small
businesses can pool risk. And it's necessary. And it's an
important part of you being able to find affordable insurance.
You know, it's a very interesting point. You say, we're
having trouble finding affordable insurance. The issue is cost.
That's the issue. It's how do we control the cost of insurance.
One way to do so is to spread risk, is how you control cost. If
you've got two people to insure, you're going to pay more than
if you have 1,000.
A second way to control cost is what I told you about medical
liability reform. I'm telling you, your premiums are high
because of junk lawsuits. And I'll tell you why they're high
because of junk lawsuits. A doctor says, I'm getting ready to
practice medicine on you, and because the lawsuits are around,
I'm likely to get hauled into court. Therefore, I'm going to
practice more medicine than I should practice. It's called the
defensive practice of medicine. In other words, he kind of
shields himself or herself from a lawsuit. And therefore, the
defensive practice of medicine, plus the fact that they're
getting sued, runs your premiums up.
Now look, I believe people ought to have their day in court.
If you get harmed, you ought to have your day in court. But we
need a system that's fair and balanced. And so -- you know, when
I first went to Washington, these governors -- one ex-governor,
three -- two are sitting governors -- would day, you know, maybe
it's none of your business in Washington, D.C. on medical
liability reform. Maybe this is a state prerogative. And I
thought maybe they were right until I looked at what the cost of
rising premiums and defensive medicine costs the federal
taxpayer. Remember, we pay a lot of money on Medicare, we pay a
lot of money for the veterans, we pay a lot of money on
Medicaid. And therefore, these lawsuits are running up the cost
to the federal taxpayer.
So I said, this is a federal issue, and went to the Congress.
Of course, we get it passed out of House and it gets stuck in
the Senate. I'll tell you why it's stuck in the Senate. The
plaintiff's bar are one of the most powerful -- is one of the
most powerful special interests in Washington, D.C. Make no
mistake about it. You try to get tort reform out of the United
States Senate, it gets shut down just like that because of the
special interests in Washington.
So there are two ways to help you be able to afford a better
plan -- three ways, excuse me -- HSAs, association health plans,
medical liability reform. Those are three ways that will help
reduce the cost of medicine and give you a chance to get a
product that you can afford. Thank you. (Applause.)
Yes, sir. Final question. This has got to be the last
question because Laura and I are headed to Motown. (Applause.)
That would be Detroit.
Q God bless you, Mr. President.
THE PRESIDENT: He has, thank you.
Q Youngest of 11, seven boys, all served in the military.
THE PRESIDENT: Fantastic. (Applause.)
Q The only thing I wanted to say -- I don't have a question
for you because you and I are on the same page, but I want you
to go out throughout the country, and every time you ask for a
vote, you ask for our prayers.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, sir. I appreciate that, very much.
(Applause.) You know something about this country, amazing thing
is I don't have to ask for the prayers. You know why? The people
are praying anyway. And I want to thank you for your prayers.
(Applause.) I appreciate that very much.
God bless you all. Thanks for coming. (Applause.)
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